No Doubt’s Tragic Kingdom – Ska, Style, and Iconic Music Videos

00:00:00:00 - 00:00:06:15 Speaker 1 Hey everyone, welcome back to Rewind and React and the music video review podcast. I'm Adam Eltarhoni. 00:00:06:17 - 00:00:08:16 Speaker 2 And this is Rob Fine. 00:00:08:16 - 00:00:18:25 Speaker 1 And today we are going to hop into 2026 with an episode dedicated to the music videos of Tragic Kingdom by No Doubt. 00:00:18:27 - 00:00:23:11 Speaker 2 Yeah, it was this about 30 years old now. Wow man. It's me. Oh my God. 00:00:23:11 - 00:00:24:10 Speaker 1 Yeah. It's crazy. 00:00:24:10 - 00:00:33:22 Speaker 1 30 years ago. So we could have released it during last year for our 30th review. 1995 had a lot of hits. I realized, like Smashing Pumpkins. 00:00:33:22 - 00:00:35:12 Speaker 1 Ladies more said Jagged Little Pill. 00:00:35:12 - 00:00:43:06 Speaker 1 A lot of even Mariah Carey's like, famous album came out in 95, so I think we'll probably hit 95 a lot during this, 00:00:43:06 - 00:00:43:21 Speaker 1 podcast. 00:00:43:21 - 00:00:45:14 Speaker 1 But wow, what a year in music. 00:00:45:16 - 00:00:46:18 Speaker 2 Yeah, huge. 00:00:46:18 - 00:00:50:20 Speaker 2 And really, that's around the year that I really came into music as a whole. 00:00:50:20 - 00:00:55:04 Speaker 2 You know, I was always listening to songs, you know, it's kind of hard not to write in general, but, 00:00:55:04 - 00:01:07:11 Speaker 2 that was the year that I really got into. I think it's kind of because alt rock kind of took center stage, and I really got into the bands, the music, MTV 00:01:07:11 - 00:01:08:03 Speaker 2 the whole thing. 00:01:08:03 - 00:01:15:16 Speaker 2 I just right in and this album that we're going to be talking about today was one of the biggest impacts. I think, on that. 00:01:15:16 - 00:01:21:07 Speaker 1 Yeah, definitely. And before we hop into the album, you know, it's a new year. Rob, you have any, 00:01:21:07 - 00:01:24:02 Speaker 1 potential concerts lined up for you this year? 00:01:24:04 - 00:01:26:22 Speaker 2 I do, I've got a few that I'm definitely going to, 00:01:26:22 - 00:01:32:16 Speaker 2 which, you know, friend of the band or friend of the podcast? Not really band that we've talked about before, but, 00:01:32:16 - 00:01:40:28 Speaker 2 dance With the dead is coming to Atlanta and it's not on Thanksgiving weekend, so finally, I will be seeing them for sure. 00:01:40:28 - 00:01:43:00 Speaker 2 The Pretty Reckless is coming. 00:01:43:02 - 00:01:44:21 Speaker 2 We talked about them the last, 00:01:44:21 - 00:01:46:08 Speaker 2 or one of the previous podcast, but, 00:01:46:08 - 00:01:52:29 Speaker 2 Taylor Momsen and her band, they're actually opening for AC, DC, which is just going to skyrocket that ticket price. But, 00:01:52:29 - 00:01:54:22 Speaker 2 I'm going to do that thing where they, 00:01:54:22 - 00:02:05:09 Speaker 2 and try to get a little bit cheaper, because really, I'm more interested in the pretty reckless than AC, DC, you know, still dressing in schoolgirl or schoolboy outfits, dancing around the stage. 00:02:05:09 - 00:02:13:03 Speaker 2 The old card and newfound glory are coming at a joint concert. Love both those bands. And then I've got a bunch that I'm just kind of, like, eyeing that I might go to, 00:02:13:18 - 00:02:16:28 Speaker 2 Lacuna Coil, sister Hazel twice. 00:02:17:01 - 00:02:25:18 Speaker 2 Big, big spread of genres there. But, yeah, kind of looking at the concert schedule for the next year, and it's looking pretty fun. 00:02:25:18 - 00:02:26:29 Speaker 1 It's great. Yeah. I, 00:02:26:29 - 00:02:33:10 Speaker 1 haven't looked at the concert schedule that much. I looked at a few of the festivals, like, I think Bonnaroo had a pretty weak lineup and, 00:02:33:10 - 00:02:39:19 Speaker 1 a few of those, like, big shows that were announced. But I will say my wife got me tickets to Nine Inch Nails. 00:02:39:22 - 00:02:40:09 Speaker 2 Oh, fun. 00:02:40:10 - 00:02:48:08 Speaker 1 This February at the Capital One Arena, so I'm really excited about that. I'm gonna have to brush up. I know we talked about them a lot on the podcast. I do like their music. 00:02:48:17 - 00:03:03:09 Speaker 2 I heard great things about that show. They came through here in November and I think it was November or September, one of the. Oh no, it's definitely September because I could not attend because I got Covid. 00:03:03:09 - 00:03:04:03 Speaker 1 that was the week you had, 00:03:04:03 - 00:03:05:13 Speaker 1 Covid and you had three concerts. 00:03:05:13 - 00:03:09:10 Speaker 2 Three concerts. That's one. Yeah. Garbage, 90 snails. And, 00:03:09:10 - 00:03:13:09 Speaker 2 Simple Plan and bowling for soup. And 3 or 3 had like one altogether. But, 00:03:13:09 - 00:03:16:15 Speaker 2 I missed that Nine Inch Nails concert. I had a friend who went, 00:03:16:15 - 00:03:21:15 Speaker 2 she spoke very highly of it, and they I've talked to a lot of other people who were like, man, yeah, what a show. 00:03:21:16 - 00:03:23:03 Speaker 2 You know, he puts on, 00:03:23:03 - 00:03:32:05 Speaker 2 and I, you know, everybody kept telling me what I missed out on. I was like, okay with it until I was talking about something we shared on this podcast. 00:03:32:05 - 00:03:35:17 Speaker 2 the drummer who sadly is not with the band anymore, but, 00:03:35:17 - 00:03:45:02 Speaker 2 his name escapes me. But he we talked about how he does a lot of these videos that he posts on YouTube of him just drumming at the concerts, and I showed somebody the perfect drug, 00:03:45:02 - 00:03:45:22 Speaker 2 that's the moment. 00:03:45:22 - 00:03:47:25 Speaker 2 I was like, oh my God, I should have been at that concert. 00:03:47:25 - 00:03:50:24 Speaker 2 So pay attention to the drummer, even though it's a new one. 00:03:50:24 - 00:03:55:26 Speaker 1 That's awesome. So let's hop into then. Tragic Kingdom. 00:03:55:26 - 00:04:08:09 Speaker 1 And I want to talk about no doubt a little bit first because this was my first awareness of them doing some research, I realized they had two albums come out beforehand. They were around since the 80s. 00:04:08:09 - 00:04:10:12 Speaker 1 And I didn't know who they were until this album came out. 00:04:10:12 - 00:04:11:15 Speaker 1 What was your, 00:04:11:15 - 00:04:12:27 Speaker 1 discovery of No Doubt? 00:04:12:29 - 00:04:17:27 Speaker 2 Oh yeah, absolutely. This album, Just a Girl, was the introduction to No Doubt for me. 00:04:17:27 - 00:04:18:04 Speaker 2 Yeah, 00:04:18:04 - 00:04:23:11 Speaker 2 I'd be surprised if you met anybody who really knew them before this album. 00:04:23:11 - 00:04:45:24 Speaker 1 So it's funny you say that. I think so I did so just for a little more history. Their first album came out in 1992, and it bombed. And you can watch some videos and there's like a VH1 Behind the Music and things like that. But it came out during the Nirvana grunge era, and all the record labels were like, no one was listening to Scala punk. 00:04:46:00 - 00:05:00:04 Speaker 1 Yeah, that music. So it did bad. And then they produced their own second album, the second studio album on their own. And then, yeah, just, you know, things came around and they decided to release Tragic Kingdom. So you're right, 00:05:00:04 - 00:05:06:29 Speaker 1 unless you were into The Scar, the punk, the kind of indie scene. You weren't used to it. 00:05:07:02 - 00:05:25:17 Speaker 1 But I remember in middle school when this album came out and a friend of mine's like, oh, no doubt is out, and he's a friend of mine that I knew he knew music. I was like, I never even heard a note out. How are they out? Like and I think he was alluding that they became mainstream like to him it was like, oh, they're no longer like indie. 00:05:25:17 - 00:05:39:15 Speaker 1 And so I at the time was buying my own music and I decided to buy the cassette tape because it was like $4 cheaper than the CD. I was like, well, my friends, they're they're not that good, but I like the songs I've heard on the radio. Let me go get the cassette. 00:05:39:15 - 00:05:40:22 Speaker 1 And I wore out that cassette. 00:05:40:22 - 00:05:41:09 Speaker 1 I will say. 00:05:41:09 - 00:05:41:23 Speaker 2 Like. 00:05:41:23 - 00:05:56:09 Speaker 1 it's a good album for the most part, because that suck. As we all know, they're not a good medium for listening to music. You have to flip the tape. You have to do all the things and the climb, which is in the middle of the album, is like a six minute long song. 00:05:56:11 - 00:06:06:10 Speaker 1 Yeah, such a long and boring song. That's like the weak part of the album to me. And as a kid who wants to listen to like, all the hits and all the good songs, it was 00:06:06:10 - 00:06:12:21 Speaker 1 torturous to be like, oh, I gotta fast forward through the climb so I can flip the tape and listen, decide to. But, 00:06:12:21 - 00:06:13:24 Speaker 1 I yeah, my friend was wrong. 00:06:13:25 - 00:06:19:19 Speaker 1 I was like, this is awesome. This is a great album. I don't know what are you saying? My only regret was I should about the CD instead of the tape. 00:06:19:21 - 00:06:22:04 Speaker 2 Well, to say you knew somebody who knew them ahead of this, 00:06:22:04 - 00:06:25:03 Speaker 2 side quest, doesn't your wife collect cassette tapes? 00:06:25:03 - 00:06:41:07 Speaker 1 Oh, she has a bunch of old ones, but she does not collect them. I don't think anyone collects them. I know there's, like, a little bit of a movement of, like, I don't know if influencers are pushing it or you know, whatever, but like, oh, were you like, oh, by cassette tapes? But now she, she has a lot like. 00:06:41:09 - 00:06:43:26 Speaker 2 Like vinyls or something like that. 00:06:43:28 - 00:06:46:16 Speaker 1 No, no, we do, we do like to buy vinyl. We like that. 00:06:46:16 - 00:06:46:25 Speaker 2 Well, 00:06:46:25 - 00:06:50:00 Speaker 2 you kind of spoke a little bit about their first album bombing. 00:06:50:00 - 00:07:10:04 Speaker 2 A fun little story. Before we get into Tragic Kingdom, Gwen's brother Gwen Stefani's brother, Eric Stefani, was the original songwriter and really the creative force behind No Doubt, and he grew frustrated with the slow pace of their success. And before Tragic Kingdom, he left the band officially and, 00:07:10:04 - 00:07:12:29 Speaker 2 he went on to become an animator for The Simpsons. 00:07:12:29 - 00:07:24:05 Speaker 1 Yeah, I saw that. It was funny. And, you know, there's like different accounts. He's definitely was an animator around that time. But apparently he also did some animation when they were on the Tracey Ullman Show for a time period. 00:07:24:07 - 00:07:24:20 Speaker 2 Wow. 00:07:24:26 - 00:07:29:04 Speaker 1 So he just went back to his old job, which is funny to think about, but, 00:07:29:06 - 00:07:30:04 Speaker 2 Yeah. 00:07:30:07 - 00:07:34:28 Speaker 1 When speaking of that, you know, there's a lot of different things about No Doubt that I didn't realize, 00:07:34:28 - 00:07:49:09 Speaker 1 a lot of history and a lot of for a band that formed in 1986 and didn't release an album until 1992, it was like a lot of that six years of grinding it out before you release your unsuccessful album and then you still grind it out. So, 00:07:49:09 - 00:07:53:00 Speaker 1 yeah, there's there's a lot of background. I didn't know about them. 00:07:53:03 - 00:07:55:10 Speaker 2 Yeah, I can see why Eric left the band. 00:07:56:04 - 00:07:59:09 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, he probably is frustrated with everything. 00:07:59:09 - 00:08:19:18 Speaker 1 But for today's episode, we're going to cover the music videos that came out with that album, because there are a lot more than I thought for this album that they released. But we're going to talk about Just a Girl. Then we'll go into spiderwebs, Don't Speak Sunday Morning, and then we'll finish with excuse me, Mr.. 00:08:19:21 - 00:08:30:08 Speaker 1 So let's hop into the first song or the first single, which they released a video for Just a Girl, released in September of 1995. 00:08:30:10 - 00:08:53:13 Speaker 2 Yes. The video for Just a Girl opens with no doubt loading gear into their cars and driving to a location where two public restrooms stands side by side, one labeled for men, one for women. Gwen Stefani enters the clean, brightly decorated women's restroom holding a boombox while the other band members are male. Enter the men's restroom with their instruments. 00:08:53:18 - 00:08:57:07 Speaker 2 Very important to take your musical instruments into the restroom with you. In the 1990s. 00:08:57:07 - 00:09:03:22 Speaker 2 Inside the contrasting spaces, we see the different experiences that they have. Hers is 00:09:03:22 - 00:09:18:13 Speaker 2 tidy and adorned with flowers and helpers, while the men's side is messy and unkept as graffiti everywhere. The men begin playing and dancing around their restroom, and initially Gwen performs alone under the supervision of the bathroom attendants. 00:09:18:15 - 00:09:27:13 Speaker 2 Eventually, the male band members climb through the ceilings to join her, and by the end, the two worlds merge in a shared space where everyone dances and plays together. 00:09:27:13 - 00:09:31:04 Speaker 1 So I've never seen the video. Of course I know the song. It's a very famous song. 00:09:31:04 - 00:09:32:27 Speaker 1 Classic, no doubt. But, 00:09:32:27 - 00:09:38:22 Speaker 1 it's not what I was expecting, but it was fun. And it was, 00:09:38:22 - 00:09:40:27 Speaker 1 a joy to watch. What did you think of it? 00:09:41:00 - 00:09:43:15 Speaker 2 Yeah. So I remember this one growing up with it. 00:09:43:15 - 00:09:49:01 Speaker 2 it's got that signature 90s. Let's use high contrast colors and, 00:09:49:01 - 00:09:53:00 Speaker 2 a little bit of like fisheye lens. We'll see that in a few of the videos, 00:09:53:00 - 00:10:00:18 Speaker 2 to kind of mask the film quality that we've got that we're working with because, you know, there even though this was a major, 00:10:00:18 - 00:10:05:18 Speaker 2 label produced video, it was there was still a pretty tame budget for this one. 00:10:05:20 - 00:10:10:08 Speaker 2 So, yeah, I could see how they were like, all right, let's just do what we can to make it look good enough. 00:10:10:08 - 00:10:15:13 Speaker 2 But no, I think I think it, it takes the content of the song and works really well with it. 00:10:15:13 - 00:10:25:19 Speaker 2 we've got this the, like, lyrics that are sarcastically outlining the frustrations of Gwen being treated as fragile or inferior. 00:10:25:19 - 00:10:30:12 Speaker 2 You know, I'm just a girl. Don't let me have any rights, you know, stuff like that. Don't let me drive late at night. 00:10:30:12 - 00:10:34:07 Speaker 2 And so then getting, like, the the split restroom, 00:10:34:07 - 00:10:38:04 Speaker 2 It's a good way to show like that gender segregation. 00:10:38:04 - 00:10:44:10 Speaker 2 And while her restroom is nicer, you know, it's cleaner, obviously. 00:10:44:10 - 00:10:46:26 Speaker 2 It's certainly more controlled, 00:10:46:26 - 00:10:52:01 Speaker 2 she's talking about how society places women into these, like, constrained roles. 00:10:52:03 - 00:10:55:01 Speaker 2 And it's because they're, you know, they have to be polished. They have to be nice. 00:10:55:01 - 00:10:59:26 Speaker 2 Pretty. Right? Whereas the men, the grungy are one. They get more freedom, 00:10:59:26 - 00:11:07:27 Speaker 2 I was recently fixing up a house that was, like, really in bad shape. And when it was in bad shape, it was really kind of fun because 00:11:07:27 - 00:11:10:19 Speaker 2 there was not really anything I could do to mess it up anymore. 00:11:10:24 - 00:11:25:00 Speaker 2 So I had a lot of freedom to like, oh, if I, you know, drop a hammer here or, you know, whatever, it's it's going to be fine. But once it's like once we got it to like the end stage, everything's nice. We had it cleaned and everything, and I felt like I had to tiptoe around the place, 00:11:25:00 - 00:11:26:21 Speaker 2 because, you know, you don't want to mess anything up now. 00:11:26:21 - 00:11:36:07 Speaker 2 And I kind of felt that same thing watching this video where it's almost fun to be in the grungy area because, yeah, it gives you more freedom. And that's what she's singing about, right? 00:11:36:07 - 00:11:41:01 Speaker 1 you're right, people, when the bathroom is kind of grungy, that it stays grungy. 00:11:41:01 - 00:11:42:08 Speaker 1 Less people care about it. 00:11:42:08 - 00:11:46:00 Speaker 1 I would still rather go to the women's restroom in this. 00:11:46:00 - 00:11:48:04 Speaker 2 Situation, but you're. 00:11:48:04 - 00:11:50:22 Speaker 1 Right. She just. 00:11:50:25 - 00:11:55:04 Speaker 2 Does. What to say. What it like represents, right is that they have one. 00:11:55:06 - 00:11:59:21 Speaker 1 Right? You're right. Like, it's a good point. Like the attendants are there as attendants, but they're also 00:11:59:21 - 00:12:01:25 Speaker 1 watching it. Right. They're like keeping an eye on her. 00:12:01:28 - 00:12:03:25 Speaker 2 So that's a. 00:12:03:25 - 00:12:10:24 Speaker 1 Good point about the visuals of their structure. But you're also constrained within this world that's created for you. 00:12:10:24 - 00:12:11:13 Speaker 2 Yes. 00:12:11:15 - 00:12:33:29 Speaker 1 One thing I will say before we hop in more in the song, it was directed by Mark Corps, and I'm glad you mentioned the oversaturated look because he's famous. He did a lot of Green Day videos, including Good Riddance and Basket Case and Case. For anyone who remembers our Eminem episode, you know, the whole scene and the Mental Institute is from Basket Case is exactly that reference. 00:12:33:29 - 00:12:41:28 Speaker 1 And he did like kicks the distance. So he was around in the 90s doing a lot of those videos. But I think he did specialize in that oversaturated colors look. 00:12:41:29 - 00:12:47:26 Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. Now that you mentioned Basket Case, I completely see it here. Like the same 00:12:47:26 - 00:12:49:21 Speaker 2 technique. Yeah. 00:12:49:23 - 00:12:57:09 Speaker 1 Yeah. So I guess Mark found it on a little bit with this one and just, the, the same styles, but it works, so I'm not it's not not a critique per se, but, 00:12:58:18 - 00:13:23:02 Speaker 1 And you're right, like, the lyrics are very little tongue in cheek, but it is like observation. And she created it because she said she got in trouble from going home from her boyfriend's house late at night and her dad got onto her. And so, you know, this is like real experience. And a lot of this album is actually going to be a lot of her real experiences, which will touch on in some of the later songs that really help make it such a good album. 00:13:23:05 - 00:13:24:19 Speaker 1 But yeah, there's a lot of, 00:13:24:19 - 00:13:25:03 Speaker 1 just 00:13:25:03 - 00:13:27:29 Speaker 1 the frustration she feels as kind of, 00:13:27:29 - 00:13:39:26 Speaker 1 a woman or just a girl in this. And you get it in a fun way in the video. It's not like over the top or like kind of banging you head in the head with it. It's just kind of giving you that fun video. 00:13:39:26 - 00:13:44:08 Speaker 1 this is the beginning of their signature Gwen style, right. 00:13:44:11 - 00:13:49:03 Speaker 2 Yeah. The clothes and makeup and everything. The signature like midriff. 00:13:49:03 - 00:13:50:17 Speaker 2 And she's got the, 00:13:50:29 - 00:13:51:24 Speaker 2 Bindi. Yes. 00:13:51:24 - 00:14:16:23 Speaker 1 it's cool because you know she's always been known for style and throughout kind of her time period. But it's it's fun to see that I assume as in the 90s like it was a lot of and I think they just like but she bought what she had and went to maybe Kmart and stuff like that to kind of put her outfit together, but it was all like stuff slapped together that really felt like that punk feel, even though were like more scar style and new. 00:14:16:25 - 00:14:25:06 Speaker 1 And there's like a lot of Jonas they call them. But like, she just has that, like, punk feel to her with her outfit of everything. It's kind of a mishmash, but it works, right? 00:14:25:06 - 00:14:30:19 Speaker 2 Yeah, absolutely. And you know you kind of talk about that punk and scar feel 00:14:30:19 - 00:14:39:13 Speaker 2 and I'll get into it a little bit more in one of our later videos we're going to talk about here. But the music in this I know it's not quite about the video, but 00:14:39:13 - 00:14:41:01 Speaker 2 it kind of works with the video, the, 00:14:41:01 - 00:14:45:02 Speaker 2 guitar part that Tom Dumont is playing very sharp and repetitive. 00:14:45:02 - 00:14:54:23 Speaker 2 Right. That to the dirty, dirty data. Meanwhile, Tony Canals bass is it's like more subtle and it's just kind of like driving us. It's anchoring the song. 00:14:54:23 - 00:15:04:07 Speaker 2 So while that's like driving the song for the guitar part just keeps repeating and pulling us back, I feel like it's kind of those two are like fighting against each other. 00:15:04:09 - 00:15:19:15 Speaker 2 And so this, like lack of harmonic movement together creates this like tension that you keep feeling right where it's like we keep trying to move forward and being pulled back until we get to the chorus, which is another where Gwen where like really gets to, you know, shine. 00:15:19:15 - 00:15:24:03 Speaker 2 But it, it kind of gives you this trapped feeling, like the musicality of the song. 00:15:24:03 - 00:15:32:17 Speaker 2 Yeah. Which is, you know, what Gwen's talking about in the lyrics and what, you know, we're seeing in her the bathroom there with her. So I think that's a really cool, 00:15:32:17 - 00:15:35:08 Speaker 2 musical thing they did in this song. 00:15:35:10 - 00:15:38:19 Speaker 1 Yeah. That's. Yeah, yeah, you said it better than me because I thought it sounded cool. 00:15:38:19 - 00:15:41:23 Speaker 1 Which you elaborated on, elaborated on a lot better. 00:15:41:23 - 00:15:52:29 Speaker 1 You're right. And I guess one thing I'll notice, I'll note a few things. First of all, I think almost all these songs sound different, which is kind of a cool thing for that album. 00:15:52:29 - 00:16:03:29 Speaker 1 There's a lot of, you know, there's I think there's a thread that goes through the whole album, but yeah, everything sounds a little off a little different and a little fun in in its different ways, which I think helps the album. 00:16:03:29 - 00:16:06:29 Speaker 2 You kind of touched on Gwen there that it feels a little, 00:16:06:29 - 00:16:08:25 Speaker 2 unconventional. Right. 00:16:08:25 - 00:16:09:19 Speaker 2 Yeah. 00:16:09:19 - 00:16:13:19 Speaker 2 she almost has like, a bratty voice in this song, 00:16:13:19 - 00:16:20:15 Speaker 2 which I think, you know, kind of works with the song lyrics itself. Right? Like saying I don't want to be, you know, a Polish girl or whatever. 00:16:20:15 - 00:16:21:06 Speaker 2 But you're right. 00:16:21:06 - 00:16:23:26 Speaker 2 she's singing a little bit ahead of the beat, 00:16:23:26 - 00:16:32:04 Speaker 2 in this song, which is. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's another reason why you're saying it. It feels like a little off or a little unconventional. Yeah. 00:16:32:04 - 00:16:33:05 Speaker 2 Yeah. The Tragic Kingdom, 00:16:33:05 - 00:16:40:12 Speaker 2 I, you know, I would have thought there's several bands from Anaheim, but now that you say it, I can't really think of another one. 00:16:40:13 - 00:16:44:15 Speaker 2 Maybe The Ataris might be from Anaheim, but, 00:16:44:15 - 00:16:45:26 Speaker 2 Yeah, you might be Robin Hood. 00:16:45:27 - 00:16:49:02 Speaker 1 I don't know what I'm talking about half the time, but yeah. No, no, no, I. 00:16:49:04 - 00:16:54:19 Speaker 2 I actually no, I think you're right. Because like, I'd think it may be the Ataris, but that might be way off. 00:16:54:19 - 00:17:03:25 Speaker 2 I'd actually never heard of Anaheim until this album and they definitely wear it on their sleeve. Like, I think the cover of the album even says Welcome to Anaheim or something like that. 00:17:03:28 - 00:17:09:04 Speaker 2 So yeah, it was a cool little introduction to what is Anaheim to me, because as an East Coast kid, 00:17:09:04 - 00:17:16:04 Speaker 2 I actually did not even know there was a Disneyland out on the West Coast as always, you know. Oh, Disney World down in Florida, right? 00:17:16:06 - 00:17:17:09 Speaker 1 Yes, exactly. 00:17:17:20 - 00:17:18:06 Speaker 1 back to the video. 00:17:18:06 - 00:17:20:15 Speaker 1 I like the invasion. It's funny. 00:17:20:28 - 00:17:35:10 Speaker 1 I think Tony goes through the ceiling and then goes drops down in the ceiling, and then the drummer and I can't remember his name. He just goes around the set. He's like, I, I'm not going to go up. I'm just going to bring my kit around the front of the stage, 00:17:35:10 - 00:17:42:25 Speaker 1 and I like the the way Mark, the director kind of changes up and shows that like ring light blown 00:17:42:25 - 00:17:58:19 Speaker 1 out face shot to mix it up because you get the bathroom settings, which is great, but then you get her and this is really like Gwen front and center. And you see her style and how she points to the camera and she knows what she's doing for the camera. 00:17:58:19 - 00:17:59:07 Speaker 1 Right. 00:17:59:07 - 00:18:03:19 Speaker 1 And I think that helps add to that. Like, I'm just a girl. Part of the video. 00:18:03:19 - 00:18:12:12 Speaker 2 Yeah, she's playing it up for the camera and I love it. Yeah. It's perfect. Yeah. The ring light. Even though the the bathroom themselves didn't have like that, 00:18:12:12 - 00:18:21:14 Speaker 2 light on like every, you know what it's like the, the movie star lighting. That was a great ring. I think it was perfect to, like, show us that she is looking into the mirror there. 00:18:22:03 - 00:18:27:11 Speaker 1 Yeah. Exactly. And like you said, it becomes fun. It is just a fun. Everyone's dancing in the end. They're having a good time. 00:18:27:11 - 00:18:38:05 Speaker 1 It's a really cool way to end the. The song. It's just there's not a there's not any tension there, really. It's just everyone now partying it up. 00:18:38:05 - 00:18:42:28 Speaker 2 Definitely a turning point for No Doubts. Commercial trajectory here. 00:18:43:00 - 00:18:46:18 Speaker 1 Yeah yeah. This had to be I mean we'll talk about the real big one. But this was one of the big ones. 00:18:46:18 - 00:18:58:01 Speaker 1 And then one other thought or observation. So she's standing in front of a crashed car at the beginning. The band gets in a different car, and they drive off to go. Is that do you think that's like, a reference to, like, she's a girl. 00:18:58:01 - 00:19:07:25 Speaker 1 She crashed the car and now they have to go into a different car? Or was it just a visual because the band did come up with the idea for this song. They said, oh, the video, they said that they wanted to do a 00:19:07:25 - 00:19:15:03 Speaker 1 men's and women's bathroom, and then they leave from the house that they actually perform in and like practice and stuff like that, to go to the bathroom scene. 00:19:15:03 - 00:19:17:26 Speaker 1 But I thought the car was interesting. 00:19:17:28 - 00:19:24:14 Speaker 2 I definitely don't think it's that she crashed the car because she's a woman, because that's not where they're trying to accomplish it. Right? 00:19:24:16 - 00:19:31:00 Speaker 1 Oh yeah. Yeah, that's what I thought too. I was like, this seems a little weird, but why is she in front of a wrecked car then? I don't know. 00:19:31:02 - 00:19:32:00 Speaker 2 Maybe it's their, 00:19:32:00 - 00:19:35:15 Speaker 2 previous albums. Oh, yeah. 00:19:35:15 - 00:19:38:11 Speaker 1 Yeah, that might be it. You're right, you're right. You're on to something. Here. 00:19:38:24 - 00:19:41:11 Speaker 2 that opening scene with the crash car. 00:19:41:11 - 00:19:45:19 Speaker 2 That's filmed at Gwen Stefani's grandparents house in Anaheim, California. 00:19:45:19 - 00:19:47:19 Speaker 2 It's not the last time we'll see it. Actually. 00:19:47:19 - 00:19:52:18 Speaker 1 And again, it goes to that home grown ness of them, like staying true to the Anaheim roots. 00:19:52:21 - 00:19:54:18 Speaker 2 Yes, absolutely. 00:19:54:18 - 00:20:03:20 Speaker 1 All right. Well then let's walk into our next video. Spider webs, released in April of 1996. 00:20:03:23 - 00:20:36:28 Speaker 2 See what you did there. The music video for Spider Webs opens on a wedding reception, where No doubt is performing the song to a crowd of well-dressed guests. As the band plays, the bride tosses her bouquet. Gwen Stefani catches it, but pricks her finger on a thorn. Soon after, the wind picks up and the scene cuts to a dramatic black and white sequence in which old fashioned wire telephones crash through the windows and start wrapping around the band and guest tangling them up like literal spider webs. 00:20:37:00 - 00:20:41:10 Speaker 2 After some struggle, the band frees themselves from the chaotic, 00:20:41:10 - 00:20:45:01 Speaker 2 scene and finishes the performance. 00:20:45:03 - 00:20:47:11 Speaker 1 Yeah, this one I definitely never seen. 00:20:48:26 - 00:20:58:07 Speaker 1 It's a weird one. There's a lot going on, and I don't know who came up with the idea, but what were your thoughts on this one? 00:20:58:10 - 00:21:18:11 Speaker 2 So I was never a big fan of this one. I remember just a girl, and I think it's a very cool concept, this music video. But the song definitely drove it into like, I like the song, I think more than the video itself. And this one I was not. And I remember not being a huge fan of it as a kid and watching it again. 00:21:18:11 - 00:21:23:09 Speaker 2 I'm still like, yeah, it's it's all right. It's not one of my favorite No Doubt videos by any means. 00:21:23:11 - 00:21:33:00 Speaker 1 before we talk a little bit more about the video I mentioned, things sound different. What were your thoughts on the way this one musically sounded? Because totally different from Just a girl, right? 00:21:33:03 - 00:21:37:21 Speaker 2 It is. And this one has some really cool stuff going on with the music. 00:21:37:21 - 00:21:52:06 Speaker 2 I have no doubt absolutely has their roots in Sky music, but they have like a punk alt rock flavor to it. And in Scott music you have a lot of like guitars playing short, muted, choppy chords. They call it the skank, 00:21:52:06 - 00:21:53:18 Speaker 2 on like off beats. 00:21:53:20 - 00:21:57:11 Speaker 2 So they get that, like something like that. 00:21:57:11 - 00:22:04:13 Speaker 2 I don't know if that's picking up on the mic, but meanwhile, you know, usually the bass provides a melodic like walking steady pulse. 00:22:04:13 - 00:22:08:14 Speaker 2 These are like quarter notes or eighth notes, just like moving us along. 00:22:08:14 - 00:22:13:12 Speaker 2 You know, a whistle on music. Typically the horns are the ones that give us that, like, flair. 00:22:13:13 - 00:22:15:11 Speaker 2 Like da da da da da da da da. 00:22:15:11 - 00:22:38:07 Speaker 2 however in like punk or alt rock, you get the guitar doing a lot more distortion with high gain playing riffs that kind of decorate the song over a bass, playing those repetitive rhythms that you would typically have the guitar do in Sky music. So in one genre you get the guitar, you're playing these frazzled, pedal modified riffs, 00:22:38:07 - 00:22:43:10 Speaker 2 and then the other you get the bass playing the funky jumps, kind of like decorating the non vocal melody. 00:22:43:13 - 00:23:03:14 Speaker 2 And that's where I think No doubt really shines. One thing I've really always loved about No Doubt, is how the guitar and the bass truly compete with each other at least once a song. The music sounds good together, but you're not just getting the bass playing a note under a guitar chord. They're both kind of. I keep saying this word dancing, but they're both dancing around each other. 00:23:03:14 - 00:23:12:09 Speaker 2 And in this one you get Dumont and Canal playing these, syncopated melodies at the same time. And the drum beat is the only thing holding it all together. 00:23:12:09 - 00:23:13:12 Speaker 2 But they, 00:23:13:12 - 00:23:28:03 Speaker 2 merge back, right, for the next verse. So the next chorus to the steady rhythms in unison so the vocals can really shine. It's a cool, like, back and forth where they're like, you know, fighting against each other, and then they come together in harmony. 00:23:28:03 - 00:23:38:21 Speaker 2 And then they, you know, kind of resolve back to this or that. It's it's kind of crazy how we see this running theme of tension and resolve throughout the history of No Doubt, not just in the music, obviously, but, 00:23:38:21 - 00:23:39:27 Speaker 2 I think it's a really cool 00:23:39:27 - 00:23:44:01 Speaker 2 feature of their style of music, especially in the Tragic Kingdom album. 00:23:44:01 - 00:23:54:10 Speaker 1 love that. And this one also to me sounds like the most like X-Com era of the 90s, like mighty Mighty Bar stones song. I a lot of the horns. 00:23:54:10 - 00:23:55:13 Speaker 1 But back to the video. 00:23:55:13 - 00:24:05:12 Speaker 1 they said the theme for this, and one of the in that VH1 documentary, I think, is they wanted like a B-movie attack of the phone's kind of feel to it. 00:24:05:12 - 00:24:11:18 Speaker 1 We definitely get that. And so the director for this one is Marcus Knispel, and he's done movies. 00:24:11:20 - 00:24:14:27 Speaker 1 The notable ones I saw was The Texas Chainsaw 00:24:14:27 - 00:24:28:18 Speaker 1 massacre from 2003, the Conan the Barbarian movie, I guess the newer one, and then the Friday the 13th movie from 2009. So I guess more of a horror movie director. 00:24:28:18 - 00:24:30:15 Speaker 2 the Friday the 13th and, 00:24:30:15 - 00:24:37:20 Speaker 2 Texas Chainsaw Massacre, those were the Michael Bay produced ones. I've actually seen both of those. I saw the, 00:24:37:20 - 00:24:44:16 Speaker 2 Texas Chainsaw Massacre in the theater. That is an intense movie. It is a 90 minute chase scene. 00:24:44:16 - 00:24:47:08 Speaker 2 There is no letting up. It's just anxiety. 00:24:47:08 - 00:24:52:14 Speaker 2 Anxiety, anxiety. At some point, you're just hoping that Jessica Biel dies so it can be over. 00:24:52:29 - 00:25:07:09 Speaker 2 Yeah. Nobody else really matters in the movie because they kill off pretty much everybody, and it's just her and Leatherface for 90 minutes, just like, that's like, oh my God, this is so intense. I was in a movie theater with a friend, 00:25:07:09 - 00:25:14:11 Speaker 2 a few friends, and one of them, like, halfway through, was like, I need to take a break because it was unrelenting cold. 00:25:14:11 - 00:25:17:23 Speaker 2 And it was holding. Yes. 00:25:17:25 - 00:25:19:15 Speaker 1 Hold and strikes again. 00:25:19:18 - 00:25:20:17 Speaker 2 Yeah. 00:25:20:17 - 00:25:24:01 Speaker 2 That Friday the 13th is actually pretty good too. I remember enjoying that one. 00:25:24:19 - 00:25:31:03 Speaker 2 It's weird that that's what they say they were going for, because I didn't really I didn't read that with this video. 00:25:31:03 - 00:25:36:01 Speaker 2 Is this look kind of like, bad? Like, I don't know, I think. 00:25:36:02 - 00:25:40:07 Speaker 1 It's funny. And maybe they say this after the fact, but it does have that schlocky like. 00:25:40:09 - 00:25:40:16 Speaker 2 Okay. 00:25:40:17 - 00:25:54:26 Speaker 1 It's first of all, it's a weird video to begin with because it's like a Japanese wedding ceremony that they're playing as a band for her. And I didn't get time to, like, translate the subtitles that they had showing during the music video, at least on the YouTube version of it. 00:25:54:26 - 00:26:03:13 Speaker 1 And then the little prick from catching the bouquet causes the wind and causes like this black and white, and it turns it into a horror movie. 00:26:03:16 - 00:26:16:14 Speaker 1 And then, yeah, it's just like them fighting phones. It's literal in that sense, because some of these videos aren't very literal from the songs. But, you know, she's walking into spiderwebs because the song's about screening someone's calls because 00:26:16:14 - 00:26:19:03 Speaker 1 her experience was of this person. 00:26:19:05 - 00:26:19:25 Speaker 2 But yeah, then. 00:26:19:25 - 00:26:30:23 Speaker 1 We get like the phones and it looks like a bad Conan O'Brien scatter like a late night TV skit where the phones are hanging off the cords and the phone to, like, bounce and up and down and 00:26:30:23 - 00:26:40:21 Speaker 1 heading at them and like, just going in and out and they're all acting very again, it's a fun video for them, I'm sure, but it's like this weird of this is what's happening. 00:26:40:24 - 00:26:47:14 Speaker 1 And they get tangled up, like you said. And then they just like, get free. And then the end, they're just walking down an alley. 00:26:47:21 - 00:26:49:26 Speaker 1 And everything's okay. 00:26:49:26 - 00:26:53:07 Speaker 2 yeah, I'm just not a huge fan of, I guess, the whole video. But, 00:26:53:07 - 00:26:58:23 Speaker 2 you know, it's interesting. There are at least two versions of the music video. That's all I could find. But there might be more. 00:26:58:23 - 00:27:03:08 Speaker 2 One of them focuses on the band performing with the exploding telephones and, 00:27:03:08 - 00:27:11:25 Speaker 2 the one that we saw here, and then the other one is just them playing at a Japanese banquet with subtitles of the guest dialog. 00:27:11:28 - 00:27:15:07 Speaker 2 I could not find that one, but I found references to it. 00:27:15:07 - 00:27:19:21 Speaker 2 So it's interesting that one of them, they didn't have any of the, like, telephone invasion thing. 00:27:19:21 - 00:27:24:09 Speaker 1 Interesting. Yeah, yeah. And I don't know if this was their idea again for it, but, 00:27:25:07 - 00:27:26:13 Speaker 2 I think you're. 00:27:26:13 - 00:27:33:15 Speaker 1 Right. You don't like it. I don't like it either. I don't think it's a good video. I guess I can I can safely say that this is a fine video. 00:27:33:15 - 00:27:34:18 Speaker 1 the pluses is you do get 00:27:34:18 - 00:27:38:26 Speaker 1 more of the Gwen style. You get to see her now she's wearing kind of those, like, tartan pants. 00:27:38:26 - 00:27:42:27 Speaker 1 That's like her signature look in the white tank top that you see on her. A lot of things. 00:27:42:27 - 00:28:00:16 Speaker 1 It's like, this is weird, but it feels very like punky silly, you know, we'll get we get that blink 182 vibes a little bit there with this. But yeah, it's just yeah, I can't, I can't imagine like I just yeah. This one is it. This one's a skippable one. 00:28:00:16 - 00:28:05:03 Speaker 1 we've seen some videos that are skippable in our reviews and the song is great. 00:28:05:03 - 00:28:10:19 Speaker 1 Like you mentioned, it's I think the opening song of the album, but yeah, this one you can skip. 00:28:10:19 - 00:28:11:01 Speaker 2 Yeah, 00:28:11:01 - 00:28:13:27 Speaker 2 it's like some of those Oasis videos we watched. Yeah. 00:28:13:27 - 00:28:17:03 Speaker 2 Pricking the finger. A common theme that we'll see later in this, 00:28:17:03 - 00:28:18:19 Speaker 2 sequence of music videos. 00:28:18:19 - 00:28:22:26 Speaker 1 yeah, it's funny. That really causes things to change. 00:28:22:28 - 00:28:25:15 Speaker 2 Yeah. I wonder if this was. It was supposed to be like 00:28:25:15 - 00:28:29:16 Speaker 2 the spinning spindle, a sleeping beauty who pricks her finger. Then, 00:28:29:16 - 00:28:32:19 Speaker 2 she fell asleep. She didn't get attacked by telephone. 00:28:32:22 - 00:28:38:07 Speaker 1 Well, this felt like a reverse Wizard of Oz, where now things are turning black and white because of an incident. And 00:28:38:07 - 00:28:39:08 Speaker 1 everything's happening. 00:28:39:08 - 00:28:40:10 Speaker 1 Any other thoughts? 00:28:40:10 - 00:28:48:24 Speaker 2 Yeah. Like I said, really cool. Like music and cool like, scar punk roots that we see here, but not not the best video. 00:28:49:25 - 00:29:08:04 Speaker 1 Well, next we'll hop into the song of the album, I think one of these songs of the 90s. And if you live throughout the 90s, there's not a time you didn't turn on the radio and hear this song on an alternative station. And we're talking about 1996 is Don't Speak. 00:29:08:04 - 00:29:10:19 Speaker 2 Yeah, it's definitely a song of the year nominee. 00:29:10:19 - 00:29:48:18 Speaker 2 The video begins with Tony Canal picking a rotten orange from a tree and like a biblical or fable setting, most of the visual narrative shows no doubt performing inside an empty studio space. And interspersed with that performance, we get shots from live concerts. We also get a glimpse of the band in their green room, with Gwen cherishing the spotlight in front of a mirror while the rest of the band sits on a couch, and a photography session in which Gwen is the focal point, while her bandmates are relegated to the background and ultimately removed from the picture, tensions grow as Gwen becomes the sole star 00:29:48:18 - 00:29:58:01 Speaker 2 of the band, and we see the band visually turned against her. The video closes with Canal replacing the orange back on the tree. 00:29:58:03 - 00:30:00:22 Speaker 1 Yeah. Great visuals, great song. 00:30:00:22 - 00:30:03:19 Speaker 1 I don't have to ask if you like this one. I assume you did, but 00:30:03:19 - 00:30:06:04 Speaker 1 what stuck out with you on this one? 00:30:06:06 - 00:30:07:19 Speaker 2 So, yeah. Great. Great video. 00:30:07:19 - 00:30:10:19 Speaker 2 This is another one I remember when it came out, I think 00:30:10:19 - 00:30:20:25 Speaker 2 the photography scene is what stands out the most in this one, where we literally see the band members being, like, pushed aside or removed ultimately, and then they're just glaring at her. 00:30:20:25 - 00:30:22:13 Speaker 2 it's kind of crazy because 00:30:22:13 - 00:30:27:03 Speaker 2 we could see a lot of foretelling of the future with some of these videos. 00:30:27:06 - 00:30:36:06 Speaker 2 Because ironically, years later, just as foretold in this video, fame would sink its claws into Gwen and she would depart the band for her own solo ventures. 00:30:36:06 - 00:30:38:20 Speaker 2 Literally. Exactly what we see in this video right? 00:30:38:20 - 00:30:42:05 Speaker 1 Yeah. It's funny. So we mentioned this song was, 00:30:42:05 - 00:31:02:07 Speaker 1 kind of a very personal written one by Gwen, and a lot of it is about relationships and Tony, the bass player, broke up with her after, I think like 6 or 7 years they were together. So long relationship. So she's writing a lot about like heartbreak and things going wrong and, you know, feeling sad and things like that. 00:31:02:07 - 00:31:03:29 Speaker 1 So it's a definitely a sad song. 00:31:03:29 - 00:31:22:09 Speaker 1 And they wanted to make the music video about the band. So they did. They wanted to have two meetings. They didn't want to just to be kind to the relationship. And so the video is about don't speak, you know, because the band is breaking up. And this is like the the visuals of what's happening to the successful band, which I think they hit on the right notes. 00:31:22:09 - 00:31:27:00 Speaker 1 But you're right, this does lead to Gwen pursuing a similar career. 00:31:27:00 - 00:31:34:01 Speaker 1 I think a couple others actually did some solo work, and then I think they came back and, you know, they're on and off again, I think as a band, 00:31:34:01 - 00:31:35:19 Speaker 1 just depending on if the stars align. 00:31:35:19 - 00:31:39:13 Speaker 1 And I'll mention the director, it's Sophie Mueller, 00:31:39:13 - 00:31:40:19 Speaker 1 she's a British director. 00:31:40:21 - 00:31:53:08 Speaker 1 she won an MTV award in 97 for this album for the song. And this video. But she's worked a lot with No Doubt, Kylie Minogue, garbage, blur, Mr. Brightside by The Killer. She's a huge, 00:31:53:08 - 00:31:58:20 Speaker 1 director. She's been around since the 80s, I think just making a ton of music videos. 00:31:58:20 - 00:32:01:15 Speaker 1 this is, yeah, I think one of her best ones. 00:32:01:18 - 00:32:02:05 Speaker 2 Yeah. 00:32:02:05 - 00:32:10:13 Speaker 2 You know, I, I typically don't like it when bands pull in concert footage into a video, but we've seen it work, right? Like the blink 182. 00:32:10:13 - 00:32:22:27 Speaker 2 One more time, you know, showing them on the stage. And they're, we're using that same technique here where it's showing their travel so far as a band. And it's not all about that concert footage. 00:32:22:27 - 00:32:27:14 Speaker 2 Right. But they just use that to accentuate, you know, this is where we started. 00:32:27:14 - 00:32:27:29 Speaker 2 and 00:32:27:29 - 00:32:40:14 Speaker 2 we see, like that old concert footage and how they're like, vibing on stage compared to now in this, like, empty studio of them looking very distant with each other. 00:32:41:12 - 00:32:55:14 Speaker 1 Yeah. It's it's funny. I think it helps if you've never heard of the band before watching this video, you understand what it's about breaking up the band. And if you didn't see that like it's a good, it's like one of those like you don't have to watch the eighth Marvel movie to understand 00:32:55:14 - 00:32:56:22 Speaker 1 what's going on. I mean, you do. 00:32:56:22 - 00:33:03:09 Speaker 1 Sorry. You have to watch the eighth Marvel movie to maybe understand what's happening. This is like a standalone movie where if 00:33:03:09 - 00:33:15:26 Speaker 1 you've never heard of No Doubt, you've never seen any of their videos. You understand that this is about the breaking up of a band, and you get to see what they used to look like, which I think, as you mentioned, really helps tie that story together. 00:33:15:26 - 00:33:30:25 Speaker 2 Yeah, but this video came out a few years or like 1 or 2 years later after Just a Girl and spiderwebs. Right? Or at least after the album had come out. And so the band was already experiencing these internal tensions, 00:33:30:25 - 00:33:36:09 Speaker 2 like they already started talking about breaking up as a band when they were filming this music video. 00:33:36:11 - 00:33:43:23 Speaker 2 And so this video actually, they said they chose to do this as a form of therapy for the band, 00:33:43:23 - 00:33:50:06 Speaker 2 so that they could get it all out in video form instead of actually breaking up. And it worked for a while, right? 00:33:50:08 - 00:33:52:06 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. You know, and. 00:33:53:01 - 00:34:06:04 Speaker 1 I mean, I don't know too much. I hesitate the word breakup in the sense that, you know, sometimes lead singers do solo projects and then they come back. It's not like I don't think there was any negative breakup, but yeah, I don't know too much about that part of history. 00:34:06:09 - 00:34:16:20 Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, I keep using that word. But, clearly they've split apart for so that's got hiatuses, right. They've had their hiatuses. They've come back together in another hiatus. 00:34:16:20 - 00:34:18:11 Speaker 2 Yeah. It happens. I get it. 00:34:18:11 - 00:34:18:25 Speaker 1 Yeah. 00:34:18:25 - 00:34:30:16 Speaker 1 It is funny though, because I think Tom Dumont, the lead guitar, is excellent in this because he just gives that look in his eyes of, like, egoism can really play off that angry look in his eyes. 00:34:30:16 - 00:34:37:10 Speaker 1 I'm so pissed off at you. And it's just work. Like the other ones are fine. And you know, they do a good job, but he really. 00:34:37:10 - 00:34:40:01 Speaker 1 You could see it in his eyes of like, this is. This is bullshit. 00:34:40:01 - 00:34:40:18 Speaker 2 Yeah. 00:34:41:10 - 00:34:45:17 Speaker 2 Absolutely. It's it's hard to see the drummer. 00:34:45:17 - 00:34:47:08 Speaker 2 What's as in Adrian as, 00:34:47:08 - 00:34:57:08 Speaker 2 upset because he just always has that, like, you know, silly kid smile and everything. And even in the video, like, when they're all, like, bored on the couch while she's, like, having her fun in front of the mirror 00:34:57:08 - 00:35:02:12 Speaker 2 taking it all and he, like, goes over there, like, puts on some of her lipstick, like, smeared it across his face. 00:35:02:20 - 00:35:09:28 Speaker 2 Which is funny because I think we later see a video with him with that, like almost Joker lipstick before the Joker was even known for that. 00:35:09:28 - 00:35:12:16 Speaker 2 Yeah. And once again, we're foreshadowing the future, right? 00:35:12:16 - 00:35:19:21 Speaker 2 But yeah, he, Yeah, he's just that, like, comedic relief guy. So, yeah, you definitely don't see that. The hate in his eyes, he tries. 00:35:19:21 - 00:35:24:05 Speaker 2 You could tell, but yeah. Tom, Tom really sells that. I know the exactly the scene you're talking about. 00:35:24:05 - 00:35:32:19 Speaker 1 And apparently and I didn't look too deep into this, but there's a clip of Tom playing with another guitarist and supposedly that a 00:35:32:19 - 00:35:34:20 Speaker 1 the Foo Fighters guitarist Pat smear. 00:35:34:22 - 00:35:36:15 Speaker 2 But oh, is it really? 00:35:36:17 - 00:35:37:14 Speaker 1 That's what I read. 00:35:38:01 - 00:35:46:14 Speaker 2 he was a the one who left Foo Fighters. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Foreshadowing again. Yeah. So 00:35:46:14 - 00:35:47:20 Speaker 1 the video 00:35:47:20 - 00:35:58:14 Speaker 1 gives a lot of iconic Gwen looks to this is like she, she was very punky and just a girl. She's kind of a little more punky. And this one this one she's very glammed up and she 00:35:58:14 - 00:36:04:12 Speaker 1 gets rid of the the crop top for this, like, polka dot dress. This blue polka dot dress, which I think was very iconic to it. 00:36:04:12 - 00:36:12:27 Speaker 1 Like kind of I don't know how many people like were inspired to get their own, but it did feel like a fashion thing again of the 90s of that alternative scene. 00:36:12:27 - 00:36:24:26 Speaker 1 And it's such a different look from her than we're used to. Which again, speaks to, like you said, this is kind of her standing out from the band and her becoming kind of the like, the focus. 00:36:24:28 - 00:36:36:13 Speaker 2 Yeah, it is interesting. Almost all of these videos, she has a different look, but yet still there's a Gwen Stefani style you think of 00:36:36:13 - 00:36:53:26 Speaker 2 I just now realize she looks so unique. I guess maybe don't speak. And the next one we're going to talk about Sunday Morning have a very similar look together. But for the most part of the other ones are all very drastic difference from one another, yet still they feel very Gwen Stefani. 00:36:53:29 - 00:36:58:17 Speaker 1 Yes, exactly. Yeah. She just she has a style that her own. 00:36:59:29 - 00:37:18:01 Speaker 1 The beginning, in the end, I think, you know, our reference to the album cover, Tragic Kingdom, because they're out in Orange Grove. I didn't really understand. And and I guess it's like the relationship is rotten when Tony pulls off the apple at the beginning and there's the worms, and it's like eating at the core. I guess that makes sense. 00:37:18:03 - 00:37:38:18 Speaker 1 But I will say I did like the transition of that to the fly. And you just see that fly on very close up, extreme close up. And then it's his head like he's it's like waving a fly off its head. And then that's where the song kicks in. I thought that part was a good transition, even though I thought, and I think probably MTV and VH1 cut out like the Beginning in the end, because they were kind of not part of the narrative as much. 00:37:38:18 - 00:37:42:23 Speaker 1 But I did like what Sophie did with that transition. 00:37:42:26 - 00:37:44:24 Speaker 2 Oh, I definitely remember them showing that, 00:37:44:24 - 00:37:47:22 Speaker 2 that oh, pulling the orange from the tree a lot. 00:37:47:22 - 00:37:54:24 Speaker 2 And, you know, I, I've gone back and forth trying to figure out what that means, what that symbolizes. I think there's a lot of different interpretations you can do. 00:37:54:24 - 00:37:57:16 Speaker 2 We know that it's about a breakup, 00:37:57:16 - 00:37:59:05 Speaker 2 between Tony and Gwen. 00:37:59:05 - 00:38:02:27 Speaker 2 But in the video, we see it as you know, the band, 00:38:02:27 - 00:38:12:08 Speaker 2 breaking up. Right? So, I guess you could interpret it as, like, he pulls this orange down from the tree, and it's, 00:38:12:08 - 00:38:21:10 Speaker 2 something great, right? He found he's taking this fruit from the tree, which in this case is this band that they've formed together. 00:38:21:10 - 00:38:23:01 Speaker 2 And it's success. 00:38:23:01 - 00:38:29:22 Speaker 2 And then putting it back at the end is kind of like letting it go. Like removing yourself from the band or the 00:38:29:22 - 00:38:30:27 Speaker 2 situation. 00:38:30:27 - 00:38:38:24 Speaker 2 And this is the best I can really come up with it. It's tough to, like, figure out what exactly they were going for. But if you know, let us know in the comments. 00:38:38:26 - 00:38:45:25 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Sophie Muller, if you got a moment co inspire us from 30 years ago, what you did with this video. 00:38:45:25 - 00:38:59:13 Speaker 1 Speaking of the song though. So I will say there was an earlier version that came out that was like more upbeat and had different lyrics. It's fun to see what transposed over time and became this like more of a sad breakup song. 00:38:59:13 - 00:39:05:03 Speaker 1 And again, to me, this one sounds different from the other. Songs are all from the same album, and, 00:39:05:03 - 00:39:05:22 Speaker 1 what a song, 00:39:05:22 - 00:39:06:14 Speaker 1 if you were 00:39:06:14 - 00:39:09:26 Speaker 1 a teenager and you heard this song, it was like so much emotion and 00:39:09:26 - 00:39:10:28 Speaker 1 you could just feel it. 00:39:11:00 - 00:39:19:12 Speaker 1 And I think even nowadays it still has that same feel. And, you know, a lot of bands, artists do kind of breakup songs, but man, this one really holds its own over the years. 00:39:19:12 - 00:39:24:22 Speaker 2 Oh yeah. It's I mean, as far as all breakup songs go, definitely top ten all time. I think, 00:39:24:22 - 00:39:29:10 Speaker 2 and you know, it's clearly it's very respected. Decades after its release, 00:39:29:10 - 00:39:34:18 Speaker 2 the official Don't Speak video has racked up over a billion views on YouTube. 00:39:35:03 - 00:39:42:26 Speaker 1 let's then hop into the next music video. Released in 97 Sunday morning. 00:39:42:26 - 00:40:10:15 Speaker 2 Yes. The video opens with No doubt performing Sunday morning in a cluttered garage. And nearby, a lonesome man played by Terry Hall of the Sky band The Specials, strolls by and sits on a swing watching the band from a distance. Gwen leaves the garage mid-song to walk to a grocery store, where she buys canned tomatoes and back at the house, the rest of the band begins preparing a spaghetti dinner together. 00:40:10:17 - 00:40:32:24 Speaker 2 During the food prep, Gwen accidentally cuts her finger while slicing tomatoes, and another band member drops a kettle of sauce. Despite the chaos, the band carries the prepared food outside to a table where everyone sits down, and soon a playful food fight breaks out with spaghetti and sauce flying everywhere. 00:40:32:26 - 00:40:41:16 Speaker 1 Yeah, so total like 180 from the last video. By design, this is another Sophie Muller project, but 00:40:41:16 - 00:40:52:19 Speaker 1 the band wanted something more lighthearted. Now they just did their sad song. You know, the band's breaking up now. Let's show the band together and being happy. What were your thoughts on this one? 00:40:52:22 - 00:40:58:09 Speaker 2 Yeah, certainly not a continuation of the story from Don't Speak, but a, 00:40:58:09 - 00:41:05:05 Speaker 2 Is the band knowing that people are consuming their videos as they were there? Yeah, like I said, they definitely wanted to 00:41:05:05 - 00:41:09:06 Speaker 2 flip the script and show like, hey, we don't actually hate each other. Like, that was just the video. 00:41:09:06 - 00:41:10:24 Speaker 2 So yeah, we get, 00:41:10:24 - 00:41:15:27 Speaker 2 the band showing friendship, togetherness, you know, simple joys of hanging out with your friends. 00:41:15:27 - 00:41:20:17 Speaker 2 The video scenes, like when they're like, shopping or cooking, 00:41:20:17 - 00:41:27:22 Speaker 2 definitely make the band more grounded, more relatable. You know, before we were getting, like, the magazine photoshoot, and now we're, 00:41:27:22 - 00:41:30:08 Speaker 2 doing everyday activities, 00:41:30:08 - 00:41:32:16 Speaker 2 definitely makes it feel authentic. 00:41:32:16 - 00:41:33:03 Speaker 2 And, 00:41:33:03 - 00:41:34:06 Speaker 2 even like the, 00:41:34:06 - 00:41:35:20 Speaker 2 like the food fight, 00:41:35:20 - 00:41:37:20 Speaker 2 even though was like, chaos and everything. 00:41:37:20 - 00:41:49:10 Speaker 2 We get that. It's more just like letting loose. They're not mad at each other. It's like a fun. Yeah, a food fight could be mean or mean spirited, or it could be fun. And 00:41:49:10 - 00:41:52:08 Speaker 2 this is certainly more fun for them. Band. 00:41:52:08 - 00:41:55:02 Speaker 1 So and very opposite of the song. Right. The songs about. 00:41:55:02 - 00:42:07:00 Speaker 1 Again the relationship with Tony and ending and now she's kind of used to be pathetic and mopey, and now she's moved on, and now he's kind of become the one and like, look at you coming in. 00:42:07:00 - 00:42:07:14 Speaker 1 But 00:42:07:14 - 00:42:16:21 Speaker 1 they still play off very well. And I like, kind of like the Green Day basket case video. The saturation of color Sophie does with them in the garage. 00:42:16:21 - 00:42:17:10 Speaker 1 Right. 00:42:17:19 - 00:42:23:19 Speaker 1 And bright greens. They're wearing blues. You know the colors are very pumped I guess 00:42:23:19 - 00:42:28:21 Speaker 1 I yeah I just like it moves on into the scene of them making dinner. 00:42:28:23 - 00:42:29:27 Speaker 2 And. 00:42:30:00 - 00:42:40:19 Speaker 1 Having a food fight at the end. Couple of things that like or weird is the Terry Hall, the British singer that sits in that swing and watches them. 00:42:40:19 - 00:42:47:29 Speaker 1 I don't know what the point of that was, unless it was like a nod to like kind of that musical roots or like just, you know, kind of a nod to them. 00:42:47:29 - 00:42:50:25 Speaker 1 that felt out of place throughout this whole video. 00:42:50:27 - 00:42:51:12 Speaker 2 Yeah. 00:42:51:12 - 00:43:00:25 Speaker 2 I imagine it was just a nod to their ska roots and they probably are friends with him. I would assume it seems like a weird cameo to pull in otherwise, 00:43:00:25 - 00:43:03:04 Speaker 2 the end where he's just sitting there 00:43:03:04 - 00:43:07:26 Speaker 2 like the video ends and he's just like, still sitting in the swing, kind of staring off, 00:43:07:26 - 00:43:10:02 Speaker 2 it seems, and like, unnecessary. 00:43:10:02 - 00:43:13:27 Speaker 2 I don't know what it. Yeah. What it's meant to symbolize. 00:43:13:29 - 00:43:19:28 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Very emo feeling for like, that type of movie feel. 00:43:20:01 - 00:43:24:14 Speaker 2 Yeah. Where like the Indigo and The Breakfast Club or something like that. 00:43:24:17 - 00:43:26:00 Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. 00:43:26:00 - 00:43:42:16 Speaker 1 I thought it was a fun transition because Gwen is changing her shoes at the beginning of the video, but she, like, moves the camera and moves the microphone down and continues to sing. And the way the camera just kind of follows her, and then she's just singing while switching her shoes. I thought was a really well done shot, cause, 00:43:42:16 - 00:43:42:27 Speaker 1 I don't know. 00:43:42:27 - 00:43:52:27 Speaker 1 It's it's something about it. Like you're following again, you're following her and she's still kind of the lead on what's going on here. Even though she's, like, doing an activity that's quite mundane, you know, changing your shoes out. 00:43:53:08 - 00:43:56:09 Speaker 2 And maybe, you know, she's wearing a dress similar to the, 00:43:56:09 - 00:44:04:20 Speaker 2 Don't speak one. Maybe the changing of the shoes is like showing us as the audience. It's like, okay, we're we're switching out of the don't speak, 00:44:04:20 - 00:44:07:23 Speaker 2 attitude that we were in, right? Like, that's, changing the mood. 00:44:08:06 - 00:44:12:23 Speaker 1 Yeah. And it's funny too, because she's switching it out like, leopard printed high heels. 00:44:12:23 - 00:44:14:29 Speaker 1 Doesn't seem like a comfortable cooking. 00:44:15:01 - 00:44:16:04 Speaker 2 She. 00:44:16:06 - 00:44:21:03 Speaker 1 For what she's doing. But again, you know, it's the style. It's her style. Right? 00:44:21:05 - 00:44:22:07 Speaker 2 Definitely her style. 00:44:22:12 - 00:44:29:22 Speaker 1 I liked if you look closely. Did you notice? It's like the Tragic Kingdom tomatoes or like an Anaheim tomato can? 00:44:29:22 - 00:44:32:25 Speaker 1 I couldn't find the brand, so I think it is like they, they created, 00:44:32:25 - 00:44:39:13 Speaker 1 And it has, like, a little bit of that tragic kingdom look to it. The album cover for their brand of tomatoes that she buys. 00:44:39:15 - 00:44:42:29 Speaker 2 I did not notice that. But now that you bring up the tomatoes, 00:44:42:29 - 00:44:50:19 Speaker 2 I was like, oh, wow. So we've got tomatoes here. We had oranges in the last one. Do they have like a running fruit theme? 00:44:50:19 - 00:45:03:10 Speaker 2 So we went back and it's very it's grasping at straws here, but she, she stands in front of an avocado painting in the just a girl bathroom. 00:45:03:12 - 00:45:07:29 Speaker 2 I was like, oh, what do we have in spiderwebs? And I couldn't find anything other 00:45:07:29 - 00:45:10:01 Speaker 2 than that doesn't really work. Yeah. 00:45:10:01 - 00:45:14:15 Speaker 1 So maybe that original Japanese only video has a fruit in it, and we're. 00:45:14:16 - 00:45:15:03 Speaker 2 Missing my. 00:45:15:04 - 00:45:16:22 Speaker 1 Red. Yeah, 00:45:16:22 - 00:45:18:00 Speaker 1 that makes sense. 00:45:18:02 - 00:45:22:10 Speaker 2 Yeah. Like 92 or something like that. Yeah. 00:45:22:13 - 00:45:24:25 Speaker 1 Like exactly. Yeah. So something, 00:45:24:25 - 00:45:25:11 Speaker 1 random. 00:45:25:22 - 00:45:36:20 Speaker 1 the market she goes to and this is kind of well known. So it's not like secret, but it's a it's at the corner of Santa Ana Street and Citron Street and it's the Eminem grocery. It's still there. 00:45:36:20 - 00:45:42:05 Speaker 1 You can still go there now. And it is in Anaheim, like again, maybe like six blocks away from Disneyland. 00:45:42:07 - 00:45:42:26 Speaker 1 So, 00:45:42:26 - 00:45:45:26 Speaker 1 for any fans that want to recreate that scene, they can go there. 00:45:45:26 - 00:45:46:15 Speaker 1 And 00:45:46:15 - 00:45:58:09 Speaker 1 I don't know about you, but and leading into the video, you can see it does happen. But the way she's chopping those tomatoes at the beginning of, like, this is nerve wracking. She's going to cut herself. And if she does, I mean, it makes sense. 00:45:58:09 - 00:46:11:26 Speaker 1 But I was just when I because again, I don't think I've seen this video before today or before. We research this. But I was just like, man, this seems too dangerous to be chopping tomatoes like that. But it makes sense where it with where it goes. 00:46:11:29 - 00:46:15:11 Speaker 2 So the nicking herself was actually incidental. 00:46:15:11 - 00:46:17:11 Speaker 2 it just actually happened while we were filming it, 00:46:17:11 - 00:46:25:20 Speaker 2 so was not actually supposed to be in the video. But as we saw in spider webs, pricking her finger is a running theme. 00:46:25:20 - 00:46:28:25 Speaker 1 You know, when that when that break happened, I thought it would be a little more, 00:46:28:25 - 00:46:40:08 Speaker 1 chaotic, like spider webs. They cleaned it up and then they get back to, like, their normal ness. But I was just like, oh, where's this going to lead us? And I was kind of a little letdown when it just, you know, they still went to dinner and just had dinner with the band. 00:46:40:08 - 00:46:46:07 Speaker 2 No, I think that was actually very important, though, even though the prequels accidental like, we get the, you know, dropped, 00:46:46:07 - 00:46:48:06 Speaker 2 food and everything, it's that, 00:46:48:06 - 00:46:52:01 Speaker 2 bad things are going to happen, but they still come together as friends. 00:46:52:01 - 00:46:55:16 Speaker 2 Which is, you know, I think the story they were trying to tell here, 00:46:55:16 - 00:46:57:25 Speaker 2 we talked about how it feels authentic and grounded. 00:46:57:25 - 00:47:13:02 Speaker 2 That little food fight they had was done with real food. Like, they wanted to make sure, like, felt genuine and that the chaos was, like, lively. So, yeah, they, they just use the actual food that they had on the table and threw it at each other, 00:47:13:02 - 00:47:14:06 Speaker 2 which I'm like, 00:47:14:06 - 00:47:18:05 Speaker 2 are they going to do that to Gwen's outfit? 00:47:18:07 - 00:47:19:03 Speaker 2 That's part of it, right? 00:47:19:19 - 00:47:27:08 Speaker 2 Yeah. Not caring about the outfit. Just having fun with it. It's. Yeah. Informal. It feels. Yeah. Fun. 00:47:27:11 - 00:47:28:07 Speaker 1 Fun video. 00:47:28:07 - 00:47:29:04 Speaker 1 Anything else for this one? 00:47:29:04 - 00:47:30:29 Speaker 2 like you said, it, we keep seeing 00:47:30:29 - 00:47:42:12 Speaker 2 different sounds from this band. And this one. Yeah, a little bit different sound as well. Right? The drums definitely like lean back in the pocket and it's a lot more relaxed. We get jazzy major chord progressions. 00:47:42:12 - 00:47:48:01 Speaker 2 But there's more than anything at the Gwen is what's different than most is she's like gentler. 00:47:48:03 - 00:47:51:09 Speaker 2 It's like conversational, whereas the other ones are, 00:47:51:09 - 00:47:52:16 Speaker 2 explosive. 00:47:52:16 - 00:48:02:27 Speaker 2 And we don't get any, like, big jumps. It's just kind of moves stepwise, melodically. I think it it's, it's a different sound for them. But it's nice. Right? 00:48:02:27 - 00:48:10:08 Speaker 1 Yeah. Exactly. Coming from an album where some of the songs have a different sound, this is like just an enjoyable one. 00:48:10:08 - 00:48:17:24 Speaker 1 Especially if you had a tape deck to rewind for a few seconds and then play it again. And hopefully you start at the beginning of the song and you didn't have to, 00:48:17:24 - 00:48:21:18 Speaker 1 rewind some more, or you went too far. 00:48:21:20 - 00:48:29:26 Speaker 2 You know, what's funny is I think I somehow ended up with two copies of this CD. I'll tell you one. Okay. Yeah. 00:48:29:28 - 00:48:31:26 Speaker 1 Here's my Spotify goes down, 00:48:31:26 - 00:48:45:14 Speaker 1 which does actually bring me on a sidebar. And I know you're not a Spotify user, but Spotify has now added music videos to songs to some of their songs that have music videos. So you can actually in the app. If there's a music video, you can click on that and watch the music video within the app. 00:48:45:14 - 00:48:46:02 Speaker 1 So, 00:48:46:02 - 00:48:51:24 Speaker 1 a nice little feature for anyone who wants to listen to the songs. And if you listen to the playlist we have created for 00:48:51:24 - 00:49:02:20 Speaker 1 rewind and react, we actually. But all the songs we talk about in a playlist that you can listen to. So now if they have a video that Spotify has uploaded, you can watch all the videos there. 00:49:02:20 - 00:49:03:24 Speaker 2 Oh very cool. 00:49:03:24 - 00:49:20:11 Speaker 2 When I originally switched over to YouTube music, that was one of the major reasons that I did it, because you could just flip flop between song and music video. Like in the middle of the video, you can click a little icon. It shows you the video, in middle of a song. But yeah, that's cool that Spotify added that. 00:49:20:13 - 00:49:23:29 Speaker 1 And they're finally catching up. Also, I will say YouTube has now had, 00:49:23:29 - 00:49:33:24 Speaker 1 if you see the end credits on the upper right, and I don't know if it's where all devices yet, you can see a little hide like toggle button, and that'll allow you to hide 00:49:33:24 - 00:49:36:22 Speaker 1 the images at the end so you can actually see the end of the video. 00:49:36:25 - 00:49:39:05 Speaker 2 What? They've been listening. Oh. 00:49:39:08 - 00:49:47:19 Speaker 1 Yeah. It's not. It's like it's hard to see. But if you're just watching and you see at the upper right a little gray box that says hide, you can click on that and it will let you hide it, 00:49:47:19 - 00:49:52:23 Speaker 1 for the video. So I don't know when it pops up in the video, but yeah, it's a good, nice little feature just to get rid of that. 00:49:52:23 - 00:49:57:01 Speaker 2 Thank you, Sundar for listening to our podcast and finally implementing that. 00:49:57:03 - 00:49:59:02 Speaker 1 Yeah yeah. About time you get to work. 00:49:59:02 - 00:50:01:25 Speaker 2 one last thing about this video I mentioned that, 00:50:01:25 - 00:50:06:13 Speaker 2 just a girl starts at Gwen Stefani's grandparents house. 00:50:06:13 - 00:50:08:29 Speaker 2 When they're loading up the car. We see it again in this video. 00:50:08:29 - 00:50:16:05 Speaker 2 We get scenes in both Gwen Stefani's mother's house as well as her grandparents house for this music video. 00:50:16:05 - 00:50:16:22 Speaker 1 I like it. 00:50:16:22 - 00:50:24:14 Speaker 1 Well, let's hop into our final video, which is again directed by Sophie Muller. Excuse me, Mr.. 00:50:24:17 - 00:50:40:17 Speaker 2 Yes. The video for Excuse Me, Mister opens with no doubt playing inside a dimly lit, almost vaudeville like space. Gwen Stefani actively seeks the spotlight, even pushing band mates aside so she can stay in front of the camera. A running theme, 00:50:40:17 - 00:50:57:03 Speaker 2 dancers in burlesque and vaudeville inspired outfits appear around the band as the scene develops, and at a break, there's a stylized gag where Stefani is, really ties herself to a set of train tracks clearly referencing silent film tropes. 00:50:57:06 - 00:51:11:05 Speaker 2 She seems to be hoping for somebody to rescue her, but nobody shows up, just as the lyrics say, forcing her to stand up and walk away. Back to the performance room, a group of paparazzi eventually burst in, turning the performance into a frenzied photo op, 00:51:11:05 - 00:51:15:05 Speaker 2 The video ends with the band posing for photos amidst the press. 00:51:15:05 - 00:51:17:09 Speaker 1 yes. Good ending of that sentence. 00:51:17:09 - 00:51:19:06 Speaker 1 This was. Yeah, this is a fun one. 00:51:19:06 - 00:51:35:03 Speaker 1 Like for the song, first of all, this is very punky, right? Like, now we're getting that high energy, fast music, fast lines, fast lyrics. It does slow down a little bit at some point, but out of all the songs we've covered for this episode, This is this feels like the most punky one right? 00:51:35:03 - 00:51:38:04 Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah. Where am I wrong? Yeah. No no, no. 00:51:38:04 - 00:51:38:15 Speaker 2 So. 00:51:38:15 - 00:51:41:01 Speaker 2 There's that whole train sequence has this, 00:51:41:01 - 00:51:43:12 Speaker 2 fast tempo, staccato rhythm. 00:51:43:12 - 00:51:48:15 Speaker 2 And it looks sounds like a little like New Orleans Street Jazz Band or something like that. 00:51:48:15 - 00:51:52:21 Speaker 2 Which I love. I think that's kind of where they pulled the vaudeville imagery from. 00:51:52:21 - 00:51:53:01 Speaker 2 We got. 00:51:53:01 - 00:52:02:21 Speaker 2 You're right. The rest of it. Yeah. It's very punky. Yeah. I mean, I was kind of all I could think of in my head was that little world, you know, with the train track. 00:52:02:21 - 00:52:09:29 Speaker 2 But yeah, yeah, the song never really rests musically. Like, it just keeps driving, driving, driving, 00:52:09:29 - 00:52:15:29 Speaker 2 which I love, but it's like, if this was slower, a slower song, it would almost sound sad. 00:52:16:01 - 00:52:26:21 Speaker 2 But because it's fast, it sounds like sped up. And I think that's almost intentional. Like not the it's not that the song is fast, but that it's supposed to sound like annoyed and 00:52:26:21 - 00:52:27:27 Speaker 2 set up a little bit. 00:52:28:22 - 00:52:38:18 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. So that speaks well to the video, though, because I do think we are right out the gate, amped up. Gwen is in a totally different outfit. Again, this is like, 00:52:38:18 - 00:52:41:16 Speaker 1 I guess, her least iconic, but her like, least, 00:52:41:16 - 00:52:42:15 Speaker 1 styled. I mean, 00:52:42:20 - 00:52:45:04 Speaker 2 This does not seem like her usual style. 00:52:45:06 - 00:52:59:19 Speaker 1 Yeah. It doesn't seem like her usual style. It works for her, but it doesn't. Yeah, it doesn't seem like her style, but it's really fun. And she's energetic and the band's energetic, and we really get into kind of that. That fun element of the video. 00:52:59:19 - 00:52:59:28 Speaker 2 What. 00:52:59:28 - 00:53:01:23 Speaker 1 Did you think about this one? 00:53:01:25 - 00:53:04:18 Speaker 2 I'll tell you something. This is my favorite Gwen Stefani outfit. 00:53:04:18 - 00:53:06:04 Speaker 2 Of all the videos we watched today, 00:53:06:04 - 00:53:08:18 Speaker 2 I think she looks the best in this video, but, 00:53:08:18 - 00:53:13:17 Speaker 2 you're right, it's not typically what you would think of as a Gwen Stefani outfit. 00:53:13:17 - 00:53:20:00 Speaker 2 I like this video a lot, actually. I remember when this first came out and it was I read 00:53:20:00 - 00:53:26:10 Speaker 2 when I was researching this, I read that it got a lot of MTV airplay, but I don't recall seeing it very often. 00:53:26:12 - 00:53:39:15 Speaker 2 That being said, when it did come on, I was very excited to see it. You know, it's not only it's a song fast, but also big. Clearly, like recorded, it slowed down so that all the video would look fast. 00:53:39:15 - 00:53:44:07 Speaker 2 very jerky and stuff like that. I love all the vaudeville dancers that, like, pop in 00:53:44:07 - 00:53:52:13 Speaker 2 it certainly has that, like surreal faded image a little bit that we saw a lot in the 90s. 00:53:52:13 - 00:54:01:20 Speaker 2 But yeah, I think, I think part of the reason I like this one so much growing up was that I just really liked Gwen's outfit and her hair, and this one very, you know, punk rock, 00:54:01:20 - 00:54:05:27 Speaker 2 you know, we don't see her dressed like a punk rocker very much. 00:54:05:27 - 00:54:08:23 Speaker 2 We usually get the more polished hair and stuff like that. 00:54:08:23 - 00:54:10:14 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. You're right. And, 00:54:10:14 - 00:54:15:22 Speaker 1 I assume your favorite outfit was her train railroad outfit, or are you talking about the other outfit? 00:54:15:25 - 00:54:17:05 Speaker 2 No, the other outfit. The, 00:54:17:07 - 00:54:17:19 Speaker 1 Like, 00:54:17:19 - 00:54:18:26 Speaker 1 Just kidding, I don't know. 00:54:19:02 - 00:54:20:23 Speaker 2 Okay. Oh, yeah. Okay. 00:54:20:25 - 00:54:23:23 Speaker 1 I'm just making it. Yeah, yeah, of course. That's a that's a good outfit. 00:54:23:23 - 00:54:30:06 Speaker 1 And, you know, it's a chaotic video in that sense. There's a lot of energy. Like, her voice is even anxious in it. 00:54:30:06 - 00:54:30:24 Speaker 1 Which 00:54:30:24 - 00:54:35:28 Speaker 1 plays well to it. I don't know, it'd be curious again if, Sophie Mueller ever did like, 00:54:35:28 - 00:54:39:06 Speaker 1 the behind all of her videos, video. 00:54:39:09 - 00:54:57:05 Speaker 1 What, like what inspired the vaudeville thing and is it is it the song that like inspired because there's that that transition does feel a little vaudevillian. And that's what they started with. That's kind of the inspiration or if there was something else, but I do like kind of that way it starts. And then 00:54:57:05 - 00:54:59:12 Speaker 1 that transition, that railroad scene that 00:54:59:12 - 00:55:05:08 Speaker 1 takes you back like Smashing Pumpkins did, back into the early 20th century. 00:55:05:10 - 00:55:22:08 Speaker 1 And it's so funny because, like you mentioned, she has to put herself on the tracks because she's like, well, someone come save me. And the rest of the band is right there behind her and they just, like, fall asleep. They're not paying attention. And you said, like you said in the lyrics, she said, well, this person's like coming. 00:55:22:10 - 00:55:24:19 Speaker 1 And then she has to get up and move away. And what a fun 00:55:24:19 - 00:55:36:12 Speaker 1 play on the song, because I don't think we get a lot of that in some of these videos, but also just a fun transition that we get from that visual aspect. And then hopping back into the chaotic frenzy and the paparazzi coming in, 00:55:36:12 - 00:55:37:06 Speaker 1 after that scene. 00:55:37:06 - 00:55:42:14 Speaker 2 Yeah. So I guess the song is about her looking for attention from some guy, right? 00:55:42:14 - 00:55:45:24 Speaker 2 I can't remember the lyrics right now, but yeah, she's, 00:55:45:24 - 00:55:51:19 Speaker 2 you know, looking for attention from a guy. And it's clear that, like, she's not sad that she doesn't have it. 00:55:51:19 - 00:55:52:22 Speaker 2 She's annoyed. 00:55:52:22 - 00:55:53:25 Speaker 2 You know, very much. Then 00:55:53:25 - 00:55:54:28 Speaker 2 I'm just a girl. 00:55:54:28 - 00:56:03:27 Speaker 2 Voice a little bit where it's like, you know, a little bratty and playing a younger kid mentality where it's like, I'm. I'm upset that you're not giving me this. 00:56:03:27 - 00:56:11:00 Speaker 2 And in the video, we kind of take that, and instead of looking for a man to give her that attention, it's, 00:56:11:00 - 00:56:14:07 Speaker 2 looking for attention from the world, right? 00:56:14:07 - 00:56:14:16 Speaker 2 Like, 00:56:14:16 - 00:56:17:09 Speaker 2 we we've got those girls that have the, 00:56:17:09 - 00:56:21:05 Speaker 2 posters that they hold up, like, film me or something like that. 00:56:21:05 - 00:56:26:12 Speaker 2 And we keep seeing the spotlight that Gwen is trying to compete for and trying to get into. 00:56:26:12 - 00:56:34:02 Speaker 2 I felt like a very vaudeville thing as well. Like this. Performing in vaudeville was very much like looking for that attention. 00:56:34:02 - 00:56:41:27 Speaker 2 And it's crazy how, you know, you could probably take this same thing today. I guess we probably have done 1 or 2 videos that are like this today where somebody is, 00:56:41:27 - 00:56:46:15 Speaker 2 talking about, like, trying to become the social media darling or something like that. 00:56:46:15 - 00:56:47:23 Speaker 2 what's really cool is like, 00:56:47:23 - 00:56:52:03 Speaker 2 there's this theme of time and attention, 00:56:52:03 - 00:56:58:05 Speaker 2 where like, she's being expected to wait for a man kind of throwing it back to just a girl again. 00:56:58:05 - 00:56:58:10 Speaker 2 But, 00:56:58:10 - 00:57:05:22 Speaker 2 she's being expected to be agreeable, and she has to, like, be grateful for the scraps of attention that she receives. 00:57:05:22 - 00:57:14:15 Speaker 2 even though she's angry, the song is still called excuse me, Mister. So it's this politeness, like, excuse me, that she has to, like, say, even though she's angry. 00:57:14:15 - 00:57:17:05 Speaker 2 I think I've, I kind of been, like, twirling here earlier, but. 00:57:17:05 - 00:57:17:24 Speaker 2 Yeah, 00:57:17:24 - 00:57:19:10 Speaker 2 she talks about eye rolling. 00:57:19:10 - 00:57:20:20 Speaker 1 You're spiraling. 00:57:20:22 - 00:57:25:17 Speaker 2 Like, spiraling out of going in every direction of my brain is, like, firing off right now, and what I. 00:57:25:17 - 00:57:26:14 Speaker 1 I know what you're saying, though. 00:57:26:14 - 00:57:36:29 Speaker 1 it is like, again, if you for people to listen to the whole album, there's a lot of these themes, but it is that like she's just a little girl trying to get attention. And so she's like, excuse me. 00:57:36:29 - 00:57:38:18 Speaker 2 Mister, excuse me mister. 00:57:38:20 - 00:57:46:02 Speaker 1 And then she goes into the song and just like the anxiousness and the like, come on, talk to me. I need your attention. 00:57:46:02 - 00:57:50:06 Speaker 1 This plays well again as compared to kind of the other songs. 00:57:50:08 - 00:57:53:00 Speaker 2 Yeah. And that, that train sequence that we get, 00:57:53:00 - 00:58:09:08 Speaker 2 you know, once again, she's looking for attention by putting herself on the train tracks, right? Like she's like, hey, you know, come get me somebody. And obviously nobody does, right? So it's about, I think, like at the end she's like, all right, I'll save myself kind of thing. I don't need them. 00:58:09:08 - 00:58:21:10 Speaker 2 But then we get that paparazzi sequence, which I really kind of juxtaposes the rest of it, right where the paparazzi jump in. I guess it's like finally she gets all the attention she's been wanting, but it's too much of it now. 00:58:21:10 - 00:58:22:24 Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, it. 00:58:22:24 - 00:58:23:24 Speaker 1 Is weird, but, 00:58:23:24 - 00:58:27:12 Speaker 1 going back to that visual change of the train track scene, I think 00:58:27:12 - 00:58:40:08 Speaker 1 you have to do a visual change there in the song. And I think the callback to the old railroad track, even if you don't even know what that references, you do know when it references, because there's been enough for like Looney Tunes 00:58:40:08 - 00:58:42:00 Speaker 1 Cartoons or anything that references it. 00:58:42:00 - 00:58:50:02 Speaker 1 Basically because I was trying to think of what else could they do, vaudevillian style with that transition that would convey what she wanted. And I was like, no, this is perfect. 00:58:50:02 - 00:58:51:03 Speaker 1 She's just, you know, 00:58:51:03 - 00:58:54:13 Speaker 1 someone that needs to be rescued, like you've seen in all those old Westerns. 00:58:54:13 - 00:58:55:16 Speaker 1 And then when 00:58:55:16 - 00:59:01:12 Speaker 1 the way the camera just tracks and she changes back into her old outfit pretty easily. 00:59:01:14 - 00:59:03:06 Speaker 1 It was a good transition to. 00:59:03:06 - 00:59:16:10 Speaker 1 And then it falls into that paparazzi scene, and I was kind of like where I was like, I don't know what the what they're trying to say now, except for maybe, like you said, she's just got all that fame. The band got all this fame, and now they're just can't they can't stop her. 00:59:16:10 - 00:59:21:06 Speaker 1 So she's like, excuse me, mister, please don't bother me as a kind of transition. 00:59:21:06 - 00:59:24:26 Speaker 1 But yeah, yeah, the paparazzi thing kind of threw me off, too, for a little bit. 00:59:24:26 - 00:59:25:19 Speaker 2 yeah. Very fun. 00:59:25:19 - 00:59:29:07 Speaker 2 style in which they made this video. I think overall. 00:59:29:07 - 00:59:30:06 Speaker 1 yeah. Do you, 00:59:30:06 - 00:59:31:10 Speaker 1 have a favorite? 00:59:31:10 - 00:59:32:08 Speaker 2 Oh, man. 00:59:32:08 - 00:59:36:16 Speaker 2 I think, I mean, it's just so hard not to point at. Don't speak. 00:59:36:16 - 00:59:46:19 Speaker 2 It's just one of their. I probably their best. Well, Yeah. Top two videos all time, I think, I'm a big fan of new by no doubt. 00:59:46:19 - 00:59:48:27 Speaker 2 Oddly, not even on one of their albums, but, 00:59:48:27 - 00:59:52:05 Speaker 2 I actually, I would probably say, excuse me, Mister is my second favorite, though. 00:59:52:05 - 00:59:52:23 Speaker 2 After that. 00:59:52:23 - 01:00:03:21 Speaker 1 Yeah, it's funny, I would agree. I think Don't Speak is my top line. Excuse me Mister is my second one. And we did specifically choose this album, but they've had a ton of other really fun, really well made videos. 01:00:03:26 - 01:00:07:08 Speaker 1 But you know what this means. 01:00:07:10 - 01:00:08:14 Speaker 2 It's trivia time. 01:00:08:19 - 01:00:13:18 Speaker 1 It is trivia time. We're back for the first trivia time of the year, 01:00:13:18 - 01:00:23:11 Speaker 1 So we're going to go with two 90s bands that have female lead singers, No doubt, or Garbage. 01:00:23:13 - 01:00:26:22 Speaker 2 Yes. I was hoping you'd say that. Yeah. 01:00:26:22 - 01:00:30:02 Speaker 2 I love garbage, actually, before we start this, I have I have one little anecdote that, 01:00:30:02 - 01:00:33:21 Speaker 2 didn't make it into the show, but since you mentioned them, 01:00:33:21 - 01:00:41:02 Speaker 2 garbage is, lead singer Shirley Manson was in an interview and she was talking about at one point, 01:00:41:02 - 01:00:43:29 Speaker 2 when they were, you know, getting their rise to fame. 01:00:44:01 - 01:00:45:20 Speaker 2 She was on a flight and 01:00:45:20 - 01:01:08:20 Speaker 2 she was told from another rock star that their shared label with No doubt, Interscope, had held a meeting to decide whether to invest the budget into No Doubt or Garbage, and the label voted to prioritize No Doubt, and this actually caused a ton of friction within garbage itself and led to their hiatus in 2006. 01:01:08:20 - 01:01:10:20 Speaker 1 Oh, interesting. 01:01:10:20 - 01:01:19:02 Speaker 2 surely Manson didn't want to talk about how much she loves Gwen Stefani. She supports No Doubt and everything it would. She was more mad at the label. Not no doubt. 01:01:19:04 - 01:01:22:29 Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Yeah, the labels are awful, and I think they still continue to be, 01:01:23:11 - 01:01:36:18 Speaker 1 So I'm going to start with something easy. And this kind of counteracts what you just said. But which bands line up has remained intact since its inception? 01:01:36:20 - 01:01:37:01 Speaker 2 Oh. 01:01:37:01 - 01:01:38:27 Speaker 2 Well, and so it's garbage. 01:01:38:27 - 01:01:44:22 Speaker 2 they went on a hiatus. They didn't, change the lineup at all. This took a break then? Yeah. 01:01:44:24 - 01:01:46:07 Speaker 1 Okay. Perfect. Yeah, yeah. So, 01:01:46:07 - 01:01:55:15 Speaker 1 Shirley Madsen, Duke Erickson, Steve Marker, and of course, the famous Butch Big who produced never mind an American icon against. 01:01:55:16 - 01:01:56:23 Speaker 2 Smashing Pumpkins, I think. 01:01:56:23 - 01:01:58:20 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:01:58:20 - 01:02:02:00 Speaker 1 which band released? 01:02:02:00 - 01:02:10:02 Speaker 1 This one's easy. Let me see that. They say released their debut album in 1995, but, I think that's a little, 01:02:10:02 - 01:02:11:05 Speaker 1 obvious. 01:02:11:07 - 01:02:13:19 Speaker 2 It's going to be garbage, right? Yeah. 01:02:13:21 - 01:02:29:13 Speaker 1 Yeah. This garbage after. After all we just talked about, no doubt, third album that's been five. Which band 1995 album was critically credited with redefining alternative rock and spawned iconic music videos? 01:02:29:13 - 01:02:42:11 Speaker 2 Oh man, that's tricky. So both had iconic music videos, which one was credited with Say that again. 01:02:42:13 - 01:02:45:13 Speaker 1 Redefining alternative rock? 01:02:45:15 - 01:02:46:16 Speaker 2 Oh man, 01:02:46:16 - 01:02:50:01 Speaker 2 I'm going to go with garbage. 01:02:50:04 - 01:02:53:18 Speaker 1 You are correct. So according to the grammy.com, 01:02:54:08 - 01:02:57:22 Speaker 2 Yeah, I think, no doubt alternative rock. 01:02:57:28 - 01:03:00:21 Speaker 1 And I think that's where the big signifier is, 01:03:00:21 - 01:03:13:18 Speaker 1 the garbage, it sounded like alternative and yeah, no doubt sounded like kind of again, more of that pop punk style thing. But yeah, it definitely did not sound like what alternative was at the time. 01:03:13:20 - 01:03:22:07 Speaker 2 When I think of alternative rock, like garbage is one of those marquee bands that like this kind of defines what alternative rock is. Yeah, yeah. 01:03:22:10 - 01:03:23:06 Speaker 1 Exactly. 01:03:23:06 - 01:03:29:25 Speaker 1 Which bands album Push and Shove marks their comeback after a hiatus? 01:03:29:27 - 01:03:34:14 Speaker 2 push and shove. Oh man. 01:03:34:14 - 01:03:38:04 Speaker 2 I'm going to say that's no doubt. 01:03:38:06 - 01:03:39:14 Speaker 1 Yes. That was their, 01:03:39:14 - 01:03:42:01 Speaker 1 2012. They returned with that album. 01:03:42:03 - 01:03:44:04 Speaker 2 Oh, wow. I've never heard of that album, but, 01:03:44:04 - 01:03:47:25 Speaker 2 I, I know garbage is catalog pretty well. I was like, I never heard of that one. 01:03:47:25 - 01:03:50:03 Speaker 1 Yeah, I no doubt, no doubt. 01:03:51:08 - 01:03:55:24 Speaker 1 This band has eight studio albums. 01:03:55:27 - 01:03:57:26 Speaker 2 Oh, gosh. Okay, let's. 01:03:58:01 - 01:03:59:17 Speaker 1 Get the number ones in on you. 01:03:59:19 - 01:04:05:01 Speaker 2 Yeah. Oh, my. Let's see, I say garbage. 01:04:05:03 - 01:04:05:16 Speaker 1 You are. 01:04:05:16 - 01:04:06:11 Speaker 2 Correct. 01:04:06:13 - 01:04:10:01 Speaker 1 No doubt has six so very close to go either way, but, 01:04:10:01 - 01:04:12:15 Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, you were right on there. 01:04:12:15 - 01:04:22:14 Speaker 1 Which band's lead singer criticized the music industry, explaining that economic realities made extensive touring unsustainable. 01:04:22:16 - 01:04:22:28 Speaker 2 That's, 01:04:22:28 - 01:04:24:23 Speaker 2 Shirley Manson of garbage. 01:04:24:25 - 01:04:25:10 Speaker 1 Yeah, 01:04:25:20 - 01:04:27:04 Speaker 2 I think that's a recent thing. 01:04:27:04 - 01:04:40:19 Speaker 2 They just came through Atlanta, and unfortunately, I couldn't go to that concert. But I have a friend who went, and he said he she sat on stage for like ten minutes talking about how the music industry is making it impossible for bands to go on tour anymore and stuff like that. 01:04:40:21 - 01:04:44:11 Speaker 1 Yeah, she did speak on it during a tour. So, your friend probably saw that we could, 01:04:44:11 - 01:04:45:13 Speaker 1 we can verify with them. 01:04:45:13 - 01:04:56:21 Speaker 1 Which band perform the theme song for the James Bond film The World Is Not Enough garbage. Yes. In 1998. No, I was an easy one. It is a great song. 01:04:56:21 - 01:05:02:12 Speaker 1 Yeah. I don't know if they've ever put it on any, any of their albums, but in this day you can just listen to it straight up. 01:05:02:14 - 01:05:06:02 Speaker 2 I think they like tagged it on to one of the later albums, but it's, 01:05:06:02 - 01:05:07:14 Speaker 2 it's got a great music video, though. 01:05:07:14 - 01:05:16:25 Speaker 1 Oh, I'll have to check it out. I, you know, we'll have to do a James Bond music videos episode one day, maybe pick some of the better ones. I don't know if there's many good ones, actually. I guess I should say that first. 01:05:16:29 - 01:05:22:14 Speaker 2 But yeah, I don't know if there's many music videos for them. There's like the opening sequences they usually use, but, 01:05:22:14 - 01:05:26:01 Speaker 2 garbage. When it did an entire music video for it. 01:05:26:03 - 01:05:32:02 Speaker 1 Oh, interesting. Yeah, I would, I would, it'd be interesting if they did that. Chris Cornell one, 01:05:32:02 - 01:05:33:16 Speaker 1 the Jack white one with, 01:05:33:16 - 01:05:41:23 Speaker 1 Alicia Keys, I think would be a fun one. And then Skyfall, I'm sure. I don't know if Adele needed to do a music video for that one, but that would probably be a fun video as well. 01:05:42:01 - 01:05:43:15 Speaker 1 A lot of good sounds coming from Earth. 01:05:43:15 - 01:05:45:07 Speaker 2 I love that Chris Cornell song that, 01:05:45:07 - 01:05:47:07 Speaker 2 you know, my name, I think is what it's called. 01:05:47:09 - 01:05:50:17 Speaker 1 From Casino Royale. Yeah. Well done. 01:05:50:17 - 01:05:57:14 Speaker 1 All right. This lead singer was once married to the lead singer of Bush, Gavin Rossdale. 01:05:57:16 - 01:05:59:24 Speaker 2 Oh, it's, Gwen Stefani. I've no doubt. 01:05:59:26 - 01:06:05:26 Speaker 1 Yes. Good job to go easy one. Do you know who she's married to now, Blake Shelton? 01:06:05:28 - 01:06:06:29 Speaker 2 Is that right? I think. 01:06:06:29 - 01:06:08:29 Speaker 1 You're right. No, I think they met on, like, 01:06:08:29 - 01:06:19:10 Speaker 1 one of those, like, the Masked Singer shows or whatever they're called. And I think we mentioned in an earlier episode she released a country music album just recently, maybe like last year or the year before. 01:06:19:10 - 01:06:22:06 Speaker 2 Yeah. We did. Yeah. 01:06:22:08 - 01:06:32:01 Speaker 1 Which band album, titled version 2.0, topped the UK Albums Chart and earned a Grammy Award nomination. 01:06:32:04 - 01:06:33:07 Speaker 2 Garbage. 01:06:33:07 - 01:06:33:24 Speaker 2 Yeah. 01:06:33:26 - 01:06:35:28 Speaker 1 I mean, you probably knew that before I mentioned the, 01:06:35:28 - 01:06:37:21 Speaker 1 UK Albums Chart for, you know, all. 01:06:37:28 - 01:06:41:07 Speaker 2 Yeah, as you said, version 2.0, yeah. 01:06:41:07 - 01:06:44:27 Speaker 1 Yeah. And it apparently is very critically acclaimed. 01:06:44:29 - 01:06:49:15 Speaker 2 Yeah, it was a great album. I mean, the first two albums were so good by garbage. 01:06:49:18 - 01:06:50:04 Speaker 1 Yeah. 01:06:50:04 - 01:06:53:11 Speaker 1 Sorry. I'm just trying to see if there's any other ones I. 01:06:53:13 - 01:06:57:06 Speaker 2 We should do a garbage episode. We've got a lot of good videos. 01:06:57:09 - 01:06:58:28 Speaker 1 Yeah. You know, when they mentioned, 01:06:58:28 - 01:07:09:07 Speaker 1 that they've had, like, kind of hit videos from 1995, I looked at a few there. Okay. There is a David Fincher directed one that would probably be pretty good. 01:07:09:07 - 01:07:13:05 Speaker 1 They feel very alternative, which makes sense for the time. 01:07:13:05 - 01:07:13:15 Speaker 2 Yeah. 01:07:13:15 - 01:07:20:12 Speaker 2 Oh yeah. Yeah, they kind of it almost like invented alternative, right. 01:07:20:15 - 01:07:22:04 Speaker 1 They didn't invent alternative, but yeah. 01:07:22:07 - 01:07:24:27 Speaker 2 I hear that he do the, 01:07:24:27 - 01:07:32:03 Speaker 2 Samuel Bayer did. Stupid girl. Trying to. Did he? There's no way he did. Only happy when it rains. Right. 01:07:32:06 - 01:07:34:29 Speaker 1 I think he did. Either that or stupid girl. 01:07:35:01 - 01:07:38:21 Speaker 2 Oh, so Samuel Bayer, the Fincher, the girl. Stupid girl. 01:07:38:24 - 01:07:41:14 Speaker 1 Then I. Then he had to only happen when it rains. 01:07:41:16 - 01:07:45:21 Speaker 2 Okay, yeah, with a little, mascots and everything. It's cool. Video. Yeah. 01:07:45:23 - 01:07:47:17 Speaker 1 Yeah, it it is a fun video. 01:07:47:17 - 01:07:53:02 Speaker 1 Well, I don't think I have any one that you don't know. 01:07:53:02 - 01:07:58:10 Speaker 1 You know, all the names are the garbage albums, you know, pretty much most of No Doubt stuff. 01:07:59:14 - 01:08:03:04 Speaker 1 So I think I'm just going to give you the win. I think you got a perfect score there. 01:08:03:07 - 01:08:04:26 Speaker 2 Perfect score. 01:08:04:26 - 01:08:05:23 Speaker 2 The first one. 01:08:05:23 - 01:08:08:29 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Congrats, Rob, for acing this one. 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